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Yes, it's a Monday holiday and i'm up earlier than on a working Monday. Well, technically, I still haven't gone to sleep, so that's celebratory, I guess. I'm watching the USA SVU marathon, which is chock-full of episodes from the Glory Days. Season Three goodness - lean, not-always-mean Stabler, unwinged Benson and be-spectacled Cabot.

Speaking of the HToL, I think [livejournal.com profile] slammerkinbabe was going to try to organize a ficathon for hurricane relief. So I can finally procure [livejournal.com profile] theholyinnocent's services legally. Or, you know, at least for a good cause. There is already a community doing this: [livejournal.com profile] fandom_charity, but there aren't any SVU (or Oz) volunteers that I can see. If anyone knows the authors of "Fide et Amour" (unfinished SVU classic) or "Nine Tenths of the Law" (unfinished Oz masterpiece), I'll pay big bucks for those to be done. For the victims, people, for the victims!

Random marathon observations:
Episode 1 - Sacrifice (Saved by the Bell star does gay porn):
What's the deal with that odd moment where Fin goes all T!I!P! on Olivia in the squadroom. Olivia even asks what's up, but no one explains. And then it's just dropped. I hate it when they do shit like that. (I've been up all night, my vocabulary isn't at its best.)

I never noticed before, but when Stabler is offering theories as to why Mark Paul Saved-by-the-Bell was attacked, he says, "Jealous gay co-star, maybe?" while looking at BD Wong/Huang. Hee!

Is it wrong to love the moment when Stabler "frisks" Mark-Paul SBTB and slams him against the wall?

Oh, and though it will never be counted in his favor, I will note that Stabler is exceedingly sensitive to the gay cop at the beginning and never shows any repulsion or disgust for either the gay porn being discussed or the ex-teen-stud doing it.

Episode Two - Repression (Amy Irving's family is fucked):
Ah, those early seeds of St. Oliska. Benson annoyingly and unperceptively snaps when Elliot mentions the daughter has a history of making up stories, then snaps again at the bar when the guys are bemoaning said lying daughter's messing up their case. Thank god Olivia's on the squad, to remind them that the daughter might be a rape/incest victim. The other three just think she's a lying whore!

Despite the nascent martyrdom of Olivia, Arbiter of Victimhood, the Stabler/Benson partnership is running like the smooth, sexy machine it should be. Sigh - the good old days.

Because Amy Irving is so distracting in this episode, I always forget how depressing the denouement is.

The black leather jacket. MH should be forced to wear it in every episode.

Ha - they all look like crap at the end. Cragen, Cabot, Benson and Stabler all look so guilty and shamed. It's very rare for all of them to be deflated. I swear, Alex looked like she was about to let loose some pretty crying.


Episode Three - Inheritance (Olivia T!I!P! but it's done well):
Mobay!

Dr. Obvious is on the case! God, I despise Huang. The whole "I heard you order takeout once" conversation is just bizarre, but I love it because Stabler is completely unmoved by Huang's faux outrage.

Look how sensitive Stabler is, first asking Olivia if she's okay and then trying to draw her out. Yes, later on today we'll be treated to the classic pot/kettle scene where St. Olivia berates Elliot for not opening up to people. Oh, how I'll laugh. If I'm awake.

I love Olivia going behind the counter and pressing a few keys and printing out the pharmacist's delivery schedule. Classic Hollywood computerizing.

I love this gray suit Alex is wearing. Yes, I know you can't see it necessarily, but still. I felt the need to say that. I also love the way she rips the pseudo-science apart. So much more effective than Casey's attempts in whatever that dreadful episode was in S5. Also, I think this is one of Alex's best summations, despite the stagey "eyeglass removal." And one of those scenes that makes me wince/chortle when I picture Casey trying to deliver the lines.

And aww, the only Huang scene I've ever really liked. (Well, besides the Huang!HeadSmash!) "You don't hurt people, Olivia. You protect them." She needed to hear that, and he managed to say it sincerely and effectively.

Wouldn't it be interesting if the PWs had the balls to pursue Olivia's fear of the violence within, now that Stabler is going to be "launched on a new path." (Which is frightening in itself.) But we can't tarnish that GoldenHalo, can we?

Episode Four - Tangled (Surprise party gone awry):
This is the kind of good "ordinary" episode SVU used to do so well. No social issues, no T!I!P! But good cast integration, some great lines ("I doubt he was calling her for urine samples" is one of my all-time favorite Cragen lines) and a plot that has layers but isn't ridiculously labyrinthine. (Though, as I recall, it does have that last-minute trick they are so fond of.)

Also, I'm kind of obsessed with the actress who plays Lara. At least, whenever this episode is on, I have to watch it. Something about her voice gets to me. I think she's on the Gilmore Girls now, but I'm not sure.

Oh, look - Olivia's found a victim she doesn't believe! Poor Mrs. Kleburg, doesn't fit into Olivia's Victim Criteria.

Love the scene where Olivia is going on and on about the happy couple and Elliot's reciting the warrant legalese, then the sad (and foreboding), "Do any marriages last? My god, you've been married for 17 years..." Sigh. Poor E/CK. The writing was on the PW wall, even if it was obscured by marijuana haze for a few years.

"Here, pussy, pussy." Hee! Also, what I now consider Munch's meta comment: "They're freaky little creatures; they lurk!" I often feel that way about TWoP lurkers. Don't get me wrong - I lurked for a long time. But it's creepy when people on other boards or on LJ parrot your TWoP posts back to you.

Oh, good - Counterfeit! Normally, I hate the Stabler-lite episodes, but this means I can go to sleep, er do some errands. (I saw the best parts - Olivia in The Dress and "Naw, baby, Boy Scout. Always prepared!") And I can happily skip Stolen (I don't need a Cragen T!I!P!) and Ridicule. See you on the other side of noon, folks!

Oh, one more thing - how annoying are those CI ads? They make me not want to watch a show even more than I already don't watch it.

Episode Seven - Ridicule (Elliot's character gets fucked by the writers)
I'll stipulate upfront that Elliot is an ass throughout this episode. But I loathe the way Olivia treats him - going to Cabot and Cragen about the open rape without telling him and then giving him that smarmy "So Cabot wants to see us" ultimatum. And of course, the writers gave Olivia and Alex all the proper, self-righteous lines, while making Elliot look like a complete dick. (The little eyeroll between Alex and Olivia is especially galling, as I don't think Olivia and Elliot ever rolled their eyes at Alex, mostly because Olivia never took Elliot's side against Alex. She was always too busy looking panicked. )

Elliot's assholic behavior is similar to the way he acted in Fallacy, another episode in which he was made to look overly reactionary so Olivia could be the crusading champion of the underdog. Now some might say that makes Elliot's behavior in character, but I disagree. While I think it is totally in character for Elliot to be skeptical of the guy's story, I don't think he'd be so openly contemptuous. And I think he'd be smarter about dealing with Olivia.

I've said many times on TWoP that I think it would have been more interesting if they'd allowed either Alex or Olivia to have some doubts about the guy's story. But that would have been too far off the gender-determined highway.

Date: 2005-09-05 01:19 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] noir-moll.livejournal.com
I love this gray suit Alex is wearing. Yes, I know you can't see it necessarily, but still.

Oh, I see it alright. The image of Alex in the gray suit and black blouse in "Inheritance" is permanently burned in my memory. There's something about that combination that makes Alex impossibly sexy...I mean, more so. And I love the summation, too, including the "eyeglass removal". Then again, we all know how easy I am when it comes to Cabot. Dammit, I wish I had cable!

Date: 2005-09-05 01:36 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ultraviolet730.livejournal.com
You do see it! You have magical powers.

No cable? And here I thought you had moved TO civilization.

Then again, we all know how easy I am when it comes to Cabot.
Why qualify it, Tall Lady? I know how easy you are, period! ;)

Date: 2005-09-05 10:18 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] noir-moll.livejournal.com
No cable? And here I thought you had moved TO civilization.

I haven't had time to wait for the "we'll be by to install your digital cable between now and 2008" cable guy.

Date: 2005-09-05 01:43 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ultraviolet730.livejournal.com
Oh, and I forgot to say how happy it made me to see you posting on TWoP again today! Yay.

Date: 2005-09-05 10:25 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] noir-moll.livejournal.com
Well, if anything called for coming out of slackerdom, it's news that Bobby Flay will do a guest spot on SVU. I felt the situation was ripe for a trademark acerbic, obscenity-laden post. ;)

Date: 2005-09-05 10:40 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] idledandy.livejournal.com
Ugh. I could forgive it if it meant he'd bring the wife along. Otherwise, what's the point?

I hope he's a vic.

Date: 2005-09-05 01:24 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] theniwokesoftly.livejournal.com
Oh, and though it will never be counted in his favor, I will note that Stabler is exceedingly sensitive to the gay cop at the beginning and never shows any repulsion or disgust for either the gay porn being discussed or the ex-teen-stud doing it.

No, I will give you that. It's just that when I went on my Elliot rant a while ago, I don't think I had seen the beginning of that episode.


I love Olivia's S2 hair. I know there are very few of us, but it's hot.

Date: 2005-09-05 01:35 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ultraviolet730.livejournal.com
Oh, but you're a reasonable person :) The detractors I'm talking about have seen this episode, as well as the many others in which Elliot is not homophobic. But they ignore them.

I live in fear that Bore and Bone will also forget it and turn Stabler into an actual homophobe this season.

Alas, I am not a fan of S2 Benson hair. But S3 is getting there.

Date: 2005-09-05 01:48 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] theniwokesoftly.livejournal.com
You don't know me very well if you think I'm reasonable. ;-D

Date: 2005-09-05 02:04 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ultraviolet730.livejournal.com
Well, reasonable within reason, of course ;)

Date: 2005-09-05 02:49 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lostingeekdom.livejournal.com
Are you going to be commenting non-stop on the marathon? Sounds like a fun thing to do. BTW .. I'lll be at the lockers if you'd like to continue a commenting marathon.
I started watching about half an hour back, so missed the dress in counterfiet. I forgot this was a Stabler-less episode. But love Olivia's hair. What else do we have today worth watching?

Date: 2005-09-05 04:37 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ultraviolet730.livejournal.com
Hey! I just got back in time to see Ridicule - one of my least favorite episodes ever. I tried not to comment on it, but as usual, I can't help myself!

I'll sign on in a bit, but unfortunately, I'm about to lose my monopoly on the TV. Big sis is coming home, and I doubt she'll be up for an afternoon of SVU.

Other worthwhile episodes coming up: Rooftop, Monogomy and Protection. There's also Redemption, which I enjoy but many don't. (It's the Stabler/Wyatt Earp epi.)

Date: 2005-09-05 05:19 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] theniwokesoftly.livejournal.com
I ahte all of you that get to watch it. In 5 minutes I have to go to class and I'm there until after 6.

Date: 2005-09-05 05:54 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lostingeekdom.livejournal.com
Wyatt Earp? Why don't I remember this ep? The lineup sounds like a roster of T!I!P! episodes.

Date: 2005-09-05 09:02 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ultraviolet730.livejournal.com
I went to the lockers, but you were away, talking to the cool kids, no doubt. I wish I could be popular and pretty, but I'm attractive on the inside. Olivia told me!

Also, an icon question. Is your "Slash god" icon available for the taking or was that a Dawnie-only special?

I do so love your AoL icon.

Date: 2005-09-05 09:59 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lostingeekdom.livejournal.com
I wish I could be popular and pretty, but I'm attractive on the inside. Olivia told me!

Hee. Tweenspeak has its uses.. even if it is to make me laugh out loud at its annoying tone. I've been online pretty much all day. I guess I showed away on the messenger as I wasn't chatting with anyone for a while. You should have buzzed me. Chances are I'd be around. I'm off for a shower now .. but I'll be back within an hour, if you still want to get to the lockers.

Far as I remember, its not an exclusive icon, so feel free to snag it. We do need to spread the Meloni love. I've kinda been sidetracked by BSG, and been doing more icons there. But if you find any good Stabler caps worth iconing, just point my attention to it.

Date: 2005-09-05 02:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] aivilo-18.livejournal.com
Is it wrong to love the moment when Stabler "frisks" Mark-Paul SBTB and slams him against the wall?

[thud]

Sorry, what?

Date: 2005-09-05 04:38 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ultraviolet730.livejournal.com
Hee. You have seen that episode, haven't you? It's a pretty good one, if you haven't.

Date: 2005-09-05 04:51 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] aivilo-18.livejournal.com
Surely, you jest! Of course I've seen it!

I make it a personal goal of mine to make sure I watch anything that has childhood/pre-teen obsessions of mine getting completely fucked over in "I'm A Grown-up Now!" guest roles.

This ranks right up there with those writers turning Fred Savage into Teh Evol Rapist, which is just about the only ep where I've enjoyed seeing Alex have her ass handed to her in the courtroom.

Date: 2005-09-05 06:01 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lostingeekdom.livejournal.com
Ah Kevin, Kevin..you're Ma taught you better than to slug a cop. What would Winnie Cooper say if she saw you now?

BTW .... Rob is feeling a wee bit pissed at having his nose tweaked on the hellboards.

Date: 2005-09-05 06:07 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] aivilo-18.livejournal.com
Heh.

Watch while I don't care.

Date: 2005-09-05 08:05 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ultraviolet730.livejournal.com
Is he pouting? All I could see were the usual Stabler slams and Emmy pimping. If I weren't already rooting against MH with all my heart, Rob's constant drumbeat would push me into it.

Date: 2005-09-05 07:33 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] noblerot.livejournal.com
Your icon! youriconyouriconyouriconyouricon

Date: 2005-09-05 08:16 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] aivilo-18.livejournal.com
Isn't it pretty? [livejournal.com profile] baby_sis does wonders with her PSP.

Yeah, it's an Oz screencap but I wanted a Stabler slash icon. Unfortunately, the writers don't seem that likely to have Elliot making out with any hot men anytime soon so the Oz screencaps are the next best thing.

Date: 2005-09-05 06:02 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] trancer21.livejournal.com
Argh! Go away for the weekend and I miss all the good stuff..again.

Elliot's assholic behavior is similar to the way he acted in Fallacy, another episode in which he was made to look overly reactionary so Olivia could be the crusading champion of the underdog.

I absolutely HATE Ridicule because it makes absolutely no sense that Elliot would act this way. None. Period. It's a part of the writing that's always been there - having one character play the foil, devil's advocate, but to take it to the extent that they did with Stabler. Am I really supposed to believe that Stabler, who's been with Special Victim's for how many years, would *still* be of the belief that an adult male couldn't be raped?

I will note that Stabler is exceedingly sensitive to the gay cop at the beginning and never shows any repulsion or disgust for either the gay porn being discussed or the ex-teen-stud doing it.

Heh, I've been thinking about taking all these "Stabler doesn't get wigged around gay people" moments and writing a Stabler isn't a Homophobe defense, but I can't find all my tapes and I'm still missing a few episodes.

Date: 2005-09-05 08:10 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ultraviolet730.livejournal.com
I was wondering where you'd gone off to. I hoped maybe you'd spent the weekend, trapped with only your computer but no modem, forced to write :)

Am I really supposed to believe that Stabler, who's been with Special Victim's for how many years, would *still* be of the belief that an adult male couldn't be raped?
Oh, I think he knew an adult male could be penetrated. And I didn't even mind his skepticism about the guy, since he was apparently able to have sex with three different women. (Though the writers totally wimped out and didn't really explain the details.) I don't buy that Stabler's so unevolved that his "arousal=consent" and "But, but, he's a MAN!" would be the extent of his argument.

I've been thinking about taking all these "Stabler doesn't get wigged around gay people" moments and writing a Stabler isn't a Homophobe defense, but I can't find all my tapes and I'm still missing a few episodes.
Man, I would love that, just so I wouldn't be the only one cataloguing it. Butt he naysayers will always point to Fallacy and say that Stabler's defense of Eddie and animosity towards Cheryl prove that, under it all, he's homophobic, because he has fear of the idea of men having sex with other men.

Poppycock, I say!

Date: 2005-09-05 07:31 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] noblerot.livejournal.com
"Jealous gay co-star, maybe" while looking at BD Wong/Huang.

Oooh. Fuck you, you fucking hack in black.

Date: 2005-09-05 08:11 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ultraviolet730.livejournal.com
Hee! Keller hates Mukada, Stabler hates Huang, UltraV hates Mukada and Huang. My grudges cross fandoms.

Date: 2005-09-05 07:48 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] debaser28.livejournal.com
Yay! SVU talk. Loved your comments about season 3.You must do this more often, Ultraviolet. Elliot slamming Mark-Paul is a classic. Meloni just can't help being sexy next to a pretty boy, can he?*g*

And OMG, Rob. What a tool.

Date: 2005-09-05 08:15 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ultraviolet730.livejournal.com
Glad you're enjoying my rambling, Ana Paula. I forgot how fun it can be. Sadly, this is the kind of thing we used to do at TWoP. But with the separated threads, it's not as easy for some reason.

Meloni just can't help being sexy next to a pretty boy, can he?*g*
Some things are just a force of nature.

And OMG, Rob. What a tool.
Poetry. Seano. Randy03. A Rob by any other name smells just as bitter.

Date: 2005-09-05 10:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] idledandy.livejournal.com
Ah, an SVU marathon. Just the thing to distract me from writing FLP's. Freaking Lesson Plans, that is. Thank goodness it's Season 3! It's even the proto-unStabler arc, in original production code order!!! Rooftop-Redemption-Monogamy. Sigh. Remember back when there was such a thing as subtlety?

I agree about the favorite Huang scene at the end of "Inheritance." I actually like him in that scene. I like him a little in "Monogamy," too. Don't tell anybody.

Date: 2005-09-05 11:40 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ultraviolet730.livejournal.com
Stupid fucking FLPs. Oh wait, were we trying not to swear? Oops.

Sigh. Remember back when there was such a thing as subtlety?
Exactly why I contrasted the "spent the night in the city" line with Olivia's ridiculously over-the-top line from this season. They are just incapable of subtlety these days.

I agree about the favorite Huang scene at the end of "Inheritance." I actually like him in that scene. I like him a little in "Monogamy," too. Don't tell anybody.
Oh, I loathe him in Monogamy. I guess he's okay in the interrogation scene, but his whole "cuckolding" explanation makes no sense. And it's even more annoying because Elliot reacts to it for some bizarre reason, yet later we find out there IS no cuckolding going on. Plus, I just hate the word.

Phew. I feel better.

Date: 2005-09-06 01:24 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] idledandy.livejournal.com
Oh, I loathe him in the "cuckolding" scene, too. I like him in the interrogation, and I like him when Cragen tells him to come along to the search. For whatever goofy reason, his delivery of "OK" just cracks me up.

School starts tomorrow. Sigh. I've got to wake up seven and a half hours earlier than I've been waking up.

No, I'm not kidding.

Date: 2005-09-06 02:51 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] theholyinnocent.livejournal.com
Darn, a marathon of hotness and I missed it! (No cable.) Woe.

I suppose I might be persuaded to participate in a ficathon for the hurricane...

Date: 2005-09-06 09:22 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ultraviolet730.livejournal.com
Ooh, don't be a tease. Or do :)

Do you not have cable as a matter of choice or a matter of chance? And I'm not sure what happened with the ficathon, but I'll check with [livejournal.com profile] slammerkinbabe and see if she's still up for it.

Date: 2005-10-30 04:38 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rosybug.livejournal.com
SVU is back here too. Isn't that poetic? "Here" is South Africa, BTW. I am of the optinion that I'm the only SA on LJ. None of my SA friends want anything to do with it, silly buggers.

Don't know which season of SVU we're watching. We've just had an ep where a rape victim disappears and her accused is found to be on a witness protection programme.

I wanna see season seven!!
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